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		<title>Minutes 12/6</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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Plans for Spring &#8216;08

ASC refillable mugs/bottles to be used on campus
Newsletter&#8211;begin formatting/etc., to work out kinks; to be implemented Fall &#8216;08
Tree sale&#8211;Valentine&#8217;s Day/Graduation (MUST be native trees)
Local Business night in Corey
Earth Day Conference in OM on Saturday April 19th

Contacts to be made: Biology, Chemistry, Geology, and Physics Clubs


Preparations for the Fall &#8216;08 Energy Contest (Inter-dorm)
Fliers [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=csave.wordpress.com&blog=1766308&post=16&subd=csave&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<li>Plans for Spring &#8216;08
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<li>ASC refillable mugs/bottles to be used on campus</li>
<li>Newsletter&#8211;begin formatting/etc., to work out kinks; to be implemented Fall &#8216;08</li>
<li>Tree sale&#8211;Valentine&#8217;s Day/Graduation (MUST be native trees)</li>
<li>Local Business night in Corey</li>
<li>Earth Day Conference in OM on Saturday April 19th
<ol>
<li>Contacts to be made: Biology, Chemistry, Geology, and Physics Clubs</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Preparations for the Fall &#8216;08 Energy Contest (Inter-dorm)</li>
<li>Fliers re: energy contest and environmental facts</li>
<li>Tye-dye party&#8211;&gt; Thurs. Jan 31st</li>
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<li>Officer&#8217;s meeting Thursday, Jan. 24th
<ol>
<li>Officers, look at your spring schedules and find a time that will work for weekly officers meetings (All)</li>
<li>look up info/get catalogs for the mugs (Ashley)</li>
<li>Begin to look at newsletter format (Mark)</li>
<li>Look up info for environmental facts fliers (All)</li>
<li>Think of fun activities to keep members (All)</li>
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		<title>Minutes 11/8</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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Call to order at 7:02
Recap of Step It Up Event
Light bulb distribution on Tuesday 11/13 at 6pm in the Fitzgerald Lobby
Next week we will be assembling paper notebooks with Professor Brice Smith&#8211;so bring your excitedness!
Don&#8217;t forget about the science clubs trip!

Lackawana Coal Mine&#8211;leave at 9am, return at about 4pm on Sunday Nov. 18
E-mail Brice Smith [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=csave.wordpress.com&blog=1766308&post=13&subd=csave&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<li>Call to order at 7:02</li>
<li>Recap of Step It Up Event</li>
<li>Light bulb distribution on Tuesday 11/13 at 6pm in the Fitzgerald Lobby</li>
<li>Next week we will be assembling paper notebooks with Professor Brice Smith&#8211;so bring your excitedness!</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t forget about the science clubs trip!
<ol>
<li>Lackawana Coal Mine&#8211;leave at 9am, return at about 4pm on Sunday Nov. 18</li>
<li>E-mail Brice Smith by Wednesday, November 14 if interested</li>
</ol>
</li>
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<p>Below, picture from November 3rd, STEP IT UP at SUNY Cortland.<br />
Photo Cred: Matt Meade</p>
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		<title>Minutes 10/25</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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Meeting called to order at 7:05
Upcoming Events

10/27-CFL distribution

Meet at 1pm in the Hendrick Hall Lobby


11/3-Step it Up

Meet on the steps of Old Main at 12:00pm to set up
Picture ideas

Hanging in a tree
On the steps In of Old Main
In front of the SUNY Cortland sign
In a shape?


Need to make a banner

Banner idea: money spent on energy [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=csave.wordpress.com&blog=1766308&post=15&subd=csave&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<li>Meeting called to order at 7:05</li>
<li>Upcoming Events
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<li>10/27-CFL distribution
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<li>Meet at 1pm in the Hendrick Hall Lobby</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>11/3-Step it Up
<ol>
<li>Meet on the steps of Old Main at 12:00pm to set up</li>
<li>Picture ideas
<ol>
<li>Hanging in a tree</li>
<li>On the steps In of Old Main</li>
<li>In front of the SUNY Cortland sign</li>
<li>In a shape?</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Need to make a banner
<ol>
<li>Banner idea: money spent on energy vs. money spent on textbooks</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Invite City of Cortland officials to the event</li>
<li>Trash sorting</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Science Club Trip to the Lackawana Coal Mine
<ol>
<li>See Brice Smith if interested</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
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		<title>Minutes 10/18</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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Call to order at 7:12
Presentation by Tim Slack, on energy use on campus

President&#8217;s Climate Commitment: pledge to stop using fossil fuels

Goal to become sustainable within ourselves
Cortland&#8217;s primary carbon footprint


US: Half of our energy source comes from coal&#8211;which puts a significant amount of carbon dioxide into the air

Coal is not cheap, and coal is not sustainable

A [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=csave.wordpress.com&blog=1766308&post=9&subd=csave&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<li>Call to order at 7:12</li>
<li>Presentation by Tim Slack, on energy use on campus
<ol>
<li>President&#8217;s Climate Commitment: pledge to stop using fossil fuels
<ol>
<li>Goal to become sustainable within ourselves</li>
<li>Cortland&#8217;s primary carbon footprint</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>US: Half of our energy source comes from coal&#8211;which puts a significant amount of carbon dioxide into the air
<ol>
<li>Coal is not cheap, and coal is not sustainable
<ol>
<li>A sustainable route is <strong>always</strong> a cheaper route, once you factor in the costs of clean up, health effects, and environmental impacts</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Impacts of burning coal
<ol>
<li> high levels of mercury in water correlate closely with coal usage</li>
<li>1 in 5 people have excessive mercury in their blood</li>
<li>Asthma rates have doubled in the last 10 years</li>
<li>Environmental: mountain tops are cut off to extract the coal&#8211;leading to a HUGE loss of biodiversity and ecosystems</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>If Cortland reduces its consumption of electricity by 12%, we can afford 100% sustainable energy</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Inter-dorm/West Campus CFL Initiative
<ol>
<li>Approved choice of image for flyer</li>
<li>Approved wattage chart for back of flyer</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Constitution
<ol>
<li>Was returned to CSAVE by SGA for the correction of minor errors</li>
<li>Was returned to SGA by CSAVE on 10/18 for re-evaluation</li>
<li>Hope to have it approved at the SGA meeting Monday, 10/22</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Step It Up 2007 (http://www.stepitup2007.org)
<ol>
<li>Nationwide call of action by universities to demand that Congress Step It Up, and
<ol>
<li>create 5 million green jobs conserving 20% of our energy by 2015</li>
<li>cut carbon 80% by 2050</li>
<li>no new coal fired plants</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Here at Cortland, you can encourage Congress persons to Step It Up
<ol>
<li>On November 3rd, at 12:30 meet on the steps outside Old Main&#8211;a photo will be taken to upload to the Step It Up website, encouraging Congress to take action</li>
<li>Also on November 3rd, the Philosophy Dept is hosting a Peace Building and Environmental Justice Conference and Presentation. Be on the lookout for flyers around campus</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>To the meeting next week, bring a green t-shirt, and ideas for our &#8220;It Bothers Me When&#8221; Campaign</li>
</ol>
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		<title>Minutes 10/4</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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Recap of last meeting&#8217;s fund raising ideas

Tree Hugger


Tim Slack

C-State currently has 1400 CFL&#8217;s ready to be distributed, with 1000 more on order
Need to talk with RA&#8217;s and Residential Services to work out details
&#8220;Stay on message&#8221;

Sustainability &#38; reducing energy usage
Carbon profile&#8211;C-State&#8217;s use of energy is obscene


If we can cut our usage by 10-15% we can use [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=csave.wordpress.com&blog=1766308&post=6&subd=csave&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<li>Recap of last meeting&#8217;s fund raising ideas
<ol>
<li>Tree Hugger</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Tim Slack
<ol>
<li>C-State currently has 1400 CFL&#8217;s ready to be distributed, with 1000 more on order</li>
<li>Need to talk with RA&#8217;s and Residential Services to work out details</li>
<li>&#8220;Stay on message&#8221;
<ol>
<li>Sustainability &amp; reducing energy usage</li>
<li>Carbon profile&#8211;C-State&#8217;s use of energy is obscene</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>If we can cut our usage by 10-15% we can use the savings to buy purely sustainable energy</li>
<li>First step is to reduce all the energy we can</li>
<li>Second is to get the CFL&#8217;s distributed with window fliers</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Project time!
<ol>
<li>T-shirt &#8211;&gt; bags for fund raising</li>
<li>Poster making for Tree Hugger fund raiser</li>
<li>Energy saving/CFL campaign
<ol>
<li>New CFL&#8217;s to be distributed ASAP with fliers
<ol>
<li>Talk to RHD for permission to have bulbs returned to RA&#8217;s if blown</li>
<li>Include other conservation ideas</li>
<li>Create multiple fliers with different information</li>
<li> Collect old bulbs when handing out the new</li>
<li>Bulbs can be placed in personal lamps</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Energy Conservation ideas
<ol>
<li>possible refridgerator insulation/keeping it full</li>
<li>laundry washing/drying</li>
<li>wattage charts</li>
<li>heater problems</li>
<li>curtains</li>
<li>include carbon reduction amount from switching bulbs</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>For next meeting, please bring your own 3-4 ideas of how to save energy <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
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		<title>Minutes 9/27</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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Fund raising ideas

Tree Hugger

Duct tape a CSAVE member to a tree for only $1/plant seeds for your dorm room
&#8220;Knowledge Table&#8221;&#8211;include information on recycling
Sell t-shirt bags
Potential date: Friday, October 19 from 12pm-3pm

Supplies needed

Green duct tape
Stepping stool
Money box
Music: either a boom box or live?
Seeds to plant
Bring Your Own yogurt container, water bottle, etc to plant in




Advertising

Facebook
Fliers/Posters
Chalk on [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=csave.wordpress.com&blog=1766308&post=5&subd=csave&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<li>Fund raising ideas
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<li>Tree Hugger
<ol>
<li>Duct tape a CSAVE member to a tree for only $1/plant seeds for your dorm room</li>
<li>&#8220;Knowledge Table&#8221;&#8211;include information on recycling</li>
<li>Sell t-shirt bags</li>
<li>Potential date: Friday, October 19 from 12pm-3pm
<ol>
<li>Supplies needed
<ol>
<li>Green duct tape</li>
<li>Stepping stool</li>
<li>Money box</li>
<li>Music: either a boom box or live?</li>
<li>Seeds to plant</li>
<li>Bring Your Own yogurt container, water bottle, etc to plant in</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Advertising
<ol>
<li>Facebook</li>
<li>Fliers/Posters</li>
<li>Chalk on sidewalks/classroom blackboards</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>For next meeting:
<ol>
<li>Bring: bottles &amp; yogurt cups</li>
<li>Bring: ideas for logo and for the CFL light bulb campaign (include where to bring them if they burn out, and other ideas of how to save energy)</li>
<li>Bring: t-shirts and scissors for bag-making with Jennica (schust48@cortland.edu)</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
</li>
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		<title>Minutes 9/20</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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 Meeting called to order at 7:08 PM.
Officer/Subcommittee Coordinator Elections

Co-presidents: Mark Morrell &#38; Matt Meade
Secretary: Ashley Andrews
Treasurer: Mark Lanpher
Community Relations: _________________
Recycling Committee Coordinator: Mary Panebianco
Green Planting and Waste Committee Coordinator: Alan Benson
Consumer Awareness Committee Coordinator: Alyssa Neely
Energy Conservation Committee Coordinator: Michele Hen
Power Shift 2007: Ashley Andrews and Tim Rodriguez

National summit on the Climate Crisis, Nov. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=csave.wordpress.com&blog=1766308&post=3&subd=csave&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<li> Meeting called to order at 7:08 PM.</li>
<li>Officer/Subcommittee Coordinator Elections
<ol>
<li>Co-presidents: Mark Morrell &amp; Matt Meade</li>
<li>Secretary: Ashley Andrews</li>
<li>Treasurer: Mark Lanpher</li>
<li>Community Relations: _________________</li>
<li>Recycling Committee Coordinator: Mary Panebianco</li>
<li>Green Planting and Waste Committee Coordinator: Alan Benson</li>
<li>Consumer Awareness Committee Coordinator: Alyssa Neely</li>
<li>Energy Conservation Committee Coordinator: Michele Hen</li>
<li>Power Shift 2007: Ashley Andrews and Tim Rodriguez
<ol>
<li>National summit on the Climate Crisis, Nov. 2-5 in Washington, D.C.</li>
<li>Cortland is organizing a group of students to attend the conference</li>
<li>Interest meeting Tuesday, September 25 6:30 PM @ steps outside Corey Union</li>
<li>For more info: <a href="http://www.cortlandpowershift.wordpress.com/">http://www.cortlandpowershift.wordpress.com</a> or <a href="http://www.powershift07.org/">http://www.powershift07.org</a></li>
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</li>
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</li>
<li>Subcommittee Workshops
<ol>
<li>CONSUMER AWARENESS
<ol>
<li>Water filtration: Pur &amp;/or Brita
<ol>
<li>Reduce Water Bottles</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>National Buy Nothing Day&#8211;Video</li>
<li>Winchell Hall, Friday 1PM: Meeting with Timothy Slack
<ol>
<li>Will discuss where things on campus come from</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li> Radio Show
<ol>
<li> SAVE announcement&#8211;any group can show up with what they want on the radio</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Cortland Farmer&#8217;s Market: Tuesday and Saturday 10AM-2PM
<ol>
<li>Need to make posters</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li> Advertise for the Salvation Army</li>
<li>Fundraiser idea: recyclable cotton bags</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>ENERGY CONSERVATION
<ol>
<li>Month long inter-dorm &amp; West Campus energy competition (November)
<ol>
<li>Contest to see which building can have the largest % decrease in energy usage from the previous year</li>
<li>Mark has list of possible prizes</li>
<li>Winning dorm gets to choose from list</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Compact Florescent Light bulb (CFL) exchange (mid-October)
<ol>
<li>Currently have 1000 CFL&#8217;s available for use</li>
<li>16 dorm buildings (about 1500 rooms), &amp; West Campus</li>
<li>Promote use of bulbs for upcoming competition</li>
<li>Distribute bulbs available between dorms&#8211;1 per room (floorlamp)</li>
<li>Take out old bulb&#8211;give CFL, fact sheet, flyer/sticket for window</li>
<li>Talk to cleaning staff re: best place to put boxes for burnt out bulbs</li>
<li>Have replacement CFL&#8217;s available in buildings</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>CFL change over contest in the spring &#8216;08 semester</li>
<li>Black Out Day
<ol>
<li>Dim lights in hallway</li>
<li>Activities for that night</li>
<li>Promote sensor lights in areas that aren&#8217;t used frequently at night</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Generatoes attached to gym equipment</li>
<li>Energy survey of academic buildings</li>
<li>Rechargable batter vending machine
<ol>
<li>Collection boxes for non-rechargable batteries in buildings</li>
<li>Talk with Carbon Neutrality Committee</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Fundraising ideas: selling CFL&#8217;s selling recycled pencils</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>GREEN PLANTING &amp; WASTE COMMITTEE
<ol>
<li>Monument to waste: volunteers walk around campus picking up all trash and recyclable materials laying on the ground and  pile it up in front of Corey Union for all students to see.</li>
<li>Talk with the College Store about possibly bringing Brita filters or other brand water purification systems to the school store to promote students to reduce the purchase of bottled water thus cutting down on bottle waste.</li>
<li>Nalgene bottles with committee logo or just green Nalgene bottles to sell.</li>
<li>Taped to a tree</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>RECYCLING COMMITTEE
<ol>
<li>Off campus recycling bins</li>
<li>Stall Stories (Green Toilet)</li>
<li>Recycling Facts: mirrors in dorms, elevators, tables in Neubig/Dragon&#8217;s Ct.</li>
<li>More/Bigger recycling bins</li>
<li>Making recycling bins</li>
<li>Dragon Chronicle ad (weekly/daily)</li>
<li>Informative signs over recycling bins</li>
<li>Recyclable artwork/sculpture</li>
<li>Environmental Fair</li>
<li>Flyers about can/bottle collection off campus</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li>Meeting Adjourned at 8:03</li>
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		<title>Welcome to our new blog!</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Welcome to the blog for CSAVE&#8211;Cortland Students Advocating for a Valuable Environment. We are a newly forming group on the SUNY Cortland campus. We have a lot of amazing goals that we&#8217;d like to accomplish this year in areas of Consumer Awareness, Energy, Green Planting and Waste, and Recycling.  We are really open to ideas, and  new people! Come check us out, our meetings are Thursdays at 7pm in 204 of Corey Union. The room placement  may be subject to change, so if you&#8217;re interested in attending a meeting e-mail the group at save.cortland@gmail.com and one of us will let you know if the room has changed. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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